the lack of intellectually stimulating material within the jw religion right now is astounding.
there is clearly a lack of spiritually dense material and a surplus of ridiculous, childish babble.
the regular "food" that jws are being fed is illustratively equivalent to pureed baby food.
@Franklin Massey: "He's been paying attention in science class and is beginning to see proof of evolution. How does the drama end for him? He starts attending the family study again because they are going to discuss the Was Life Created? brochure."
WAT.
How can anyone simply be convinced by that brochure, or even interested? It sucks! My brain felt like a toasted cheese sandwich when I read it.
here's an excerpt from this weeks watchtower study in 1950: .
*** w50 6/15 p. 180 a victory dedicated to jehovahs honor ***.
the strategy, and the attack.
Hmmm, I'll admit, that's far more lively then their magazines have been for a few decades. The writing seems now to be aimed at little children. As a little kid I thought I was SO mature to understand everything in these articles, till I realized that they were just immature, I wasn't mature.
for me it was many things.
most concerned certain teachings that invloved genders, children, sex, sexuality and sexual orientations, disfellowshipping, apostates, blood, rape, and few other things, as well as the jw's unloving attitude toward so many people..
For me it was many things. Most concerned certain teachings that invloved genders, children, sex, sexuality and sexual orientations, disfellowshipping, apostates, blood, rape, and few other things, as well as the JW's unloving attitude toward so many people.
it essentially makes me feel like i am an evil, immoral, selfish imdividual who god hates (even though "evil" is really a religious term, and i am not religious, even though i don't do terrible things, even though i care about others so much that i am remaining a jw mainly for other people).
i hate not being able to express my feelings, not just about supposed gender roles, but about many aspects of life.
i think i am fair and accepting about both sexes, and all sexual orientations, and about many other things, such as a person's religion or the lack thereof.. and yet in this religion it is veiwed as a bad thing, a sin, to accept or even tolerate these things without prejudice.
It essentially makes me feel like I am an evil, immoral, selfish imdividual who god hates (even though "evil" is really a religious term, and I am not religious, even though I don't do terrible things, even though I care about others so much that I am remaining a JW mainly for other people). I hate not being able to express my feelings, not just about supposed gender roles, but about many aspects of life. I think I am fair and accepting about both sexes, and all sexual orientations, and about many other things, such as a person's religion or the lack thereof.
And yet in this religion it is veiwed as a bad thing, a sin, to accept or even tolerate these things without prejudice. If I don't believe that anyone who isn't like me will die at Armageddon, then there is something wrong with me.
Seeing women in my congregation wearing head coverings when translating a brother's talk, seeing them have to sit when giving a demonstration "not a "talk"), seeing the strict dress code imposed on them...angers and huurts me. I hate reading the WTBTS's highly misogynistic articles concerning women. Having to be "under subjection" is what pisses me off more than anything. That should be decided by the women.She should decide what SHE wants.
Knowing that there must be some men who would really prefer not to have to be the "head", and would rather work WITH their wives rather than making all the rules, also frustrates me. Why should one gender be forced into that role? It is completely unfair imo. And is it so wrong to not have "strong masculine qualities"? Can a man not be more feminine if it suits him? Must he fit one stereotype?
END OF RANT.
I'm sorry, I just needed to get all of that out.
Are there any feminists here who used to be JWs? Anyone who is of a different sexual orientaion? Or anything else?
i used to really like the drawings as a kid.
the artists, i think, are usually pretty good, not so much at portraying emotions but in technical ways.
the photos always seemed silly to me.. so what do all of you think?.
Bangalore: God I HATE those pictures. I would be trying to rescue those poor people!
discreetslave: which picture is it that bothers you in the magazine?
i think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.
the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.
those were horrible.
punkofnice: Woah, I forgot about that first one...damn. The rest are good as well.
bigmac: LUCKY!!!
dozy: Hey, I remmember that one. I can't believe they said that. Even for them, it seems extreme.
can be mushy ... .
or can be craaazyyy ... .
okay, i'll start :).
Thanks, talesin. Don't know why I had those wwws there, should have known better.
ok, quick run down of my situation.. .
1. i am not religious.
my now-fiance was raised jw but left the religion about 10 years ago.. 2. we started dating last march, i got pregnant within two weeks.
Being a feminist myself, and liking slightly kinky stuff "in bed", and being someone who just doesn't want to be in a cult that is so mentally controlling and abusive, I would advise against marrying someone who is determined to be part of a religion that denies everything I mentioned.
But most importantly, consider how it will effect your child.
can be mushy ... .
or can be craaazyyy ... .
okay, i'll start :).
I can't post videos...sorry. Stupid computer.
But I'll go with Nirvana's Tourettes. Makes me feel...good,always. Crazy song.
i think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.
the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.
those were horrible.
That experience about the Ethiopian women...puh-lease...
At my Kingdom Hall they didn't get TOO wrapped up in the experience, luckily.
Why do they not use the book about JWs and school anymore?
I bet I still have it somewhere...
